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January 17, 2023

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Paloma Ave

Could former organized labor leader, Richard Louis Trumka, being trying to drum up work for union electrical workers?

After all, many homes with gas stoves do not have 240-volt outlets needed to power electric stoves.

JP

I have a friend who wanted "to do the right thing" and go electric. Called an electrician and found out that not only did he need a couple of new 220 outlets but his whole panel was undersized and needed to be replaced. "The right thing" turned out to be gas. LOL

Joe

And right on cue, Belmont weighs in with more sheep-like behavior regarding a natural gas reach-for-your-wallet code. Check out the little fascist they have elected to "steer the populace":

Vice Mayor Davina Hurt said the ordinance will help the state end the sale of fossil fuel cars by 2035.

“I’m fully supportive of reducing our carbon footprint through transportation and getting ahead of what’s going to be the future, which is everyone is going to pretty much have EV chargers, and I think if we start steering our populace in that direction, sooner than later, it will just be easier in the future,” Hurt said.

https://www.smdailyjournal.com/news/local/belmont-officials-seek-more-electric-in-homes/article_66b6820e-9640-11ed-96ec-cbc61c06177a.html

Want to know what is wrong with our state, our county and our cities? It's electing people who thing they SHOULD STEER THE POPULACE. When you go look up "public servant" in a real reference, it will tell you the POPULACE STEERS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. One wonder what the recall process is in Belmont and if there are a sufficient number of people who can think for themselves to pull it off with Ms. Hurt?

Spurinna

Government for…the people.
Basic.
Wonder if they teach this in school anymore?

Peter Garrison

Somebody’s got to run on “Government by and for the people” in Burlingame.

Joanne

Hmm wondering how hazardous to our health are cell phones???

And what about all the plastic packaging used when ordering from Amazon??

How great is all that trash along 101 in San Mateo/Burlingame that hardly EVER gets cleaned up??

Just saying...


Paloma Ave

Yet again, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District is trying to take something away in order to justify their existence. They are pigs at the trough, nothing more.

In the past they have wanted your employer to charge you to park at your employer's parking lot. They have wanted to force you to remove your fireplace. Now they want to ban your gas appliances.

I guess a womans right to an abortion is the only thing regulators are in favor of.

Otherwise, you have no right to live your life as you see fit.

Gerald Weisl

We have had gas appliances for ages, no? But we have not had seriously poisonous light tubes but for maybe 90 years and perhaps 40 for CFLs which should require careful disposal. Perhaps local governments might consider figuring out a simple and convenient method for those to be dealt with (as long as they are intent on saving the world).
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With the recent storms and numerous power outages, how do these anti-gas advocates suggest citizens manage to cook and stay warm when the electricity is out for a day, two or three?
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Peter Garrison

Can’t use wood fireplaces during those frigid nights when there’s the inversion layer making the sky grey.

So people were advised to change to natural gas.

We did.

Oopsy.

MBGA

I think it will be okay to burn books, though.

Joe

The Electrician Full-Employment Act is coming. Check out the comments at the end of this snip from the Comicle article:

One major obstacle to the proposed regulations is clear, however: electrical capacity in homes. Because installing electric water heaters and furnaces will increase load demand, some older homes will need bigger electrical panels.

Mike Kapolnek, a retired engineer who lives in Sunnyvale, has been complaining to the air district about potential unintended consequences for months. He said most homes built before the late 1970s don’t have 200-amp panels, the level that many electrical engineers say is ideal to support a fully electric single-family home, including appliances and vehicle charging.

Kapolnek said he worries that if the rule doesn’t include an exception for homes with old panels, it could force some to leave their homes. The process for PG&E to process electrical panel retrofits can take many months. Such upgrades also easily cost $2,000-$5,000.

He and his wife are in the process of having a new panel installed — a proactive move on their part — and he expects it will take eight months for PG&E to approve the upgrade.

“They can’t even support the smaller number of upgrades going on now,” Kapolnek said. “(The rule change) makes sense, but it needs to be done properly. It needs to be managed like a gargantuan public-works project, and it doesn’t seem to be.”

Nudd said concerns about the need for electric panel upgrades are why the air district is seeking to delay implementation. He said technology in the sector is rapidly evolving and reducing load demand.

Laura Feinstein, sustainability and policy director for SPUR — the San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association — said the concern about electric panels in homes is a knee-jerk reaction. She said there are already a host of relatively cheap devices, including circuit sensors and smart current sensors, that allow homeowners to switch power between high-demand electrical appliances, such as water heaters, dryers and vehicles, as they use them.

“There’s a lot of ways in which people have been overestimating how many homes are going to need a new panel,” she said.
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Sure. Let's buy, install and maintain/fix a bunch of sensors and switches all over our houses. Sounds like a great plan.

Paloma Ave

Lead article in San Mateo Daily Journal today "City cooling on electrification".

San Carlos officials have decided to represent the interest of their constituents, instead of trying to further their own political careers.

Hopefully, other Bay Area cities will 'smarten up' too?

And please let the Bay Area Air Quality Management District to go back to JUST collecting their paychecks and stop trying to dictate how we should be living.

Joe

If this weren't so sad, it would be funny. I was chatting with a friend from Palo Alto today. He recently did a big remodel of his home and went "all-electric". (Yes, he's several decades younger than me :-)

So I ask him how it's working out. He says "I probably should have done more reading on the subject". Cost aside (capital and operating expenses) which were notably higher, the heat pump just ain't cuttin' it. C'est la vie.

Joe

We got us some rocket scientists here:

San Francisco Chronicle: Interestingly, frequent outages may hurt the state’s electrification efforts. Residents who experienced public safety power shutoffs had a relatively high interest in buying fossil fuel generators, compared to residents in nearby neighborhoods without outages, according to research from UC Santa Barbara professor Leah Stokes. They also had less interest in buying electric vehicles, Stokes found.

Ultimately, the responsibility falls on utilities to upgrade their infrastructure, McPherson said.

Utilities are responsible for outages caused by damage to substations or power lines, such as those from toppled trees in the January storms. In response to both wildfire and storm risk, PG&E is undertaking vegetation management and building stronger poles, said Aaron August, PG&E vice president of utility partnerships and innovation.

The utility is also undergrounding 10,000 miles of power lines in high-fire-risk areas, August said. Undergrounding, though, is an expensive, and thus limited, fix: It costs PG&E up to $6.1 million per mile of power line, according to the California Public Utilities Commission.

Peter Garrison

2;4/23
Electricity out again downtown Burlingame.

Jeez.

Phinancier

Senators Ted Cruz and Joe Manchin introduced a bill on Thursday that would block a federal agency from banning the use of gas stoves even though there are no plans to outlaw them.

The move comes amid fierce public debate over the health and environmental impacts of the cooking appliances that burn fossil fuel and over the broader role of natural gas in fighting climate change.

Cruz, a Texas Republican, and Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, teamed up to float the Gas Stove Protection and Freedom Act, a bill that would prevent the Consumer Product Safety Commission from banning gas stoves.

The agency has said it has no plans to ban the appliance but its top commissioner, Richard Trumka Jr., caused an uproar last month when he told Bloomberg News that natural gas stoves are “a hidden hazard” and suggested they should be banned.

Joe

This guy Gavin cracks me up:

Federal probe sought for natural gas prices:

Gov. Gavin Newsom called on the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to look into market manipulation, anticompetitive behavior or other activities as the cost of the resource has skyrocketed, prompting shockingly high energy bills.

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