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June 15, 2019

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Sally Meakin

Hi, joe. Nice work. sforunwaynoise.com has been overhauled for easier reading. I’d like to add a Joe section. OK with you?

Joe

I'm not sure what a "Joe section" is but I trust you so go ahead. If you just want to link to the SFO Airport category link on the right hand side, you will always get the latest post on top.

Barking Dog

Joe...I am old enough to know when to eat my words...

200k a month is a huge number and obviously can't be ignored.

While the noise doesn't bother me or my family, it's more than obvious it bothers more than the 49 plaintiffs....

tedyun

This is a very bizarre claim from Ong, and the data that is publicly available from SFO Noise Abatement department directly shows an increase over the last few years.

In 2015, there was an average of about 1400 significant noise exceedances per month. At the end of 2018, the number averaged around 2000 per month.

That is data that his department published! So he was either lying, or he was referring to "alternative facts." Notice he prefaced the statement with he "believes" there was no increase.


"...Mr. Ong believes they do not show any appreciable increase in noise over the last three or four years..."

Joe

Good for you, Barking Dog. I was blown away by the number especially since making a complaint is completely pointless. I gave up years ago since they don't actually do anything about it. Yet the complaints keep rolling in. Go figure.

Ted, when you have a moment would you post the link to the data you refer to? I have emailed SFO rep Chris Roach to remind him of my request.

BillyGBob

Did SFO mention how many individuals were responsible for those 200,000 monthly calls or the annual calls? The vast majority of airport noise complaints are typically from a very small number of individuals who may complain hundreds (or thousands) of times per year. Furthermore, the availability of auto-reporting 3rd party complaint apps just makes it easier for those few to magnify their opinion. So, a more representative metric of the issue is the number of unique households that complain over a given period.

From what I can tell from the SFO noise report records (https://data.sfgov.org/Transportation/Aircraft-Noise-Complaint-Data/q3xd-hfi8), the monthly calls are typically from around 1,400 individuals...which means the average caller is making 140 calls each month. The data don't indicate unique callers across the year, but I imagine that most of the callers month-to-month are the same individuals. What this all means is that while the number of calls may be increasing, they still represent a miniscule share of the population. For example, in 2018, the highest number of individual callers from Burlingame during a given month was 37. Even accounting for (a) each caller may represent a unique household (and thus, multiple people), (b) not everyone in town is aware of how one files a SFO noise complaint, and (c) not everyone who may think to file a complaint bothers to do so (or may think it’s a waste of time), that’s still a very small portion of the population.

I’m not saying that there isn’t an issue, but focusing on the total complaint volume can be extremely misleading.

Joe

You are also correct BGB. I think it was either 1400 or 1700 "reporters" and the average caught my eye as well. Your a) thru c) are also correct in my opinion, with b and c being very important aspects that lower the complaint levels. All true and indicative of a problem that goes beyond 49 or 360 people (who took the survey).

hollyroller@gmail.com

Holy Cow!
What has happened to the "Entertainment " that this "ol'e website" Rumors, Arguments, Conspiracy Theories, used to provide. What are the latest City Hall Cut Throat Political Positions?

Trump or Biden?

City of Burlingame Infrastructure...

What a Mess.
Long gone are the days of "Burlingame RFD."
As a Community in Silicon Valley where an 800 square foot "Home" costs 1.9 Million, the need for Educated "Elders" is the Foundation of our Community.
When it is time to vote again, please consider the FACT that The City of Burlingame needs Financial and Compassionate highly educated representatives' of the People.



Why has the Current City of Burlingame Manager been allowed to "mismanage" everything?
Every City of Burlingame Elder has NO BUSINESS managing a Multi- Million Dollar Corporation.

hollyroller@gmail.com

One more very important FACT!
Any City of Burlingame Citizen/Renter that runs for Any Political Office should be paid a Minimum of $100,000.00 per year. If WE-City of Burlingame begin to run our City as a Corporation instead of a "Safe Place." Money can be made. Community Development, Education, Investment.

hillsider

CVS must have run out of holyroller's meds.

Peter Garrison

World domination and cheese.

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