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December 26, 2018

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BillyGBob

Not my baby at all. But I do have more familiarity with transportation planning and traffic engineering than the average driver.

Hollyroller

That's Great BGB.
Maybe you can explain the need for "The Rock."
As opposed to what was there before.

It is difficult to determine if you are for/against the Rock.

Where else in Burlingame would you install another "Rock?"

Sir Paul

Behans is full of IRA drug dealers.Lets get rid of them.

BMW

BillyGBob - when you said “you locals likely figured it out”, you’re perhaps betraying that you’re not a local Burlingamer yourself? Might you know the licensed engineer from out of the Bay Area who “stamped the plans”?

The premise of a roundabout is to keep traffic moving, minimizing delay, so drivers will rarely even come to a complete stop. If the city truly wanted traffic calming or to protect people crossing it wouldn’t have minded traffic stopping from time to time. Like with a signal. As far as drivers being “baffled” with what he had before, I agree with the earlier comment - at least we didn’t need a video to tell us what to do.

Also the speed limit south of the Ave, in our Auto row, is 30. It’s actually not 25.

And Broadway/California/Carolan area “turned out ok”? That is the worst intersection Burlingame and arguably the most troubled intersection in the entire Peninsula. It’s number 2 in the state for train collisions. Not ok.

Hollyroller

Weak

BillyGBob

Nope. I had no role in that project at all nor do I know anyone who did. I have, however, been driving and walking through the intersection for the last 18 years.

You're certainly right on the 30 mph vs 25 mph, though with the on-street parking and restricted lane widths, 25 mph is likely more appropriate.

At Broadway, I wasn't referring to the issues with the RR X-ing; there are certainly problems there. I was referring to the work related to the new Broadway overpass that made the S. Airport to Carolan trip an adventure for several months and after the work was completed, it took a while to figure out the signal timing.

Yes, in many cases, roundabouts are intended to reduce delay (especially when replacing signals), but they also seek to remove certain types of collisions. According to the City’s General Plan (https://www.envisionburlingame.org/files/managed/Document/134/Ch%204%20Burlingame_ECR%20Final%20Draft_TRANSPORTATION_updated.pdf), this spot had more ped collisions than any other spot in town.

resident

It's still and adventure getting over the Broadway bridge in either direction and not because of the signal timing. The lanes are not intuitive.

Hollyroller

I understand that California Drive is very wide at that point. It may be very difficult to cross from the Cal Train Parking Lot to Stacks.(point of reference)
If there are a lot of people in need of a Parking Place; willing to Risk their lives to eat/shop at Burlingame Ave. park on the west side of California Drive, or learn how to run between cars.
People do it in SF 24/7/365.

Better yet, a shuttle leaving every 30 minutes from Cal Train Broadway Parking Lot, or Burlingame Ave. Cal Train Parking Lot.
What do you think Hillsider?

Bruce Dickinson

BGB betrayed a long time ago he's from Belmont.

Bruce Dickinson cannot be fooled! *wink*

MV

Holy cow. Went by last night. From now on I will wear my sunglasses at night.

Joe

From the city e-newsletter:

Roadway resurfacing for the California Drive Roundabout Project is nearing completion. Warmer temperatures in the coming weeks will allow for the installation of final roadway striping and permanent signage. This project is still under construction.

The California Drive roundabout is expected to be fully opened by April 2019.

hollyroller@gmail.com

Dear Chucky-re:12/29/2018@6:05 PM...
Happy Saint Patrick's Day tomorrow.
Sir Paul-re:01/04/2019@8:58 PM

Dear Sir Paul-
"YOU, ARE A MAD MAN."

(* 1980'S Film. STRIPES)

Joe

It's official from the city e-newsletter:

The City of Burlingame is proud to announce the completion of the California Drive Roundabout Project! California Drive now features two lanes in each direction through the new roundabout. All newly installed crosswalks will be open to pedestrians. Bellevue Avenue and Lorton Avenue access from southbound California Drive will also be open to drivers and cyclists.

BMW

Almost forgot to greet Burlingame a Happy National Roundabouts week. #roundaboutsweek

From the traffic engineers in Florida and North Carolina. And the concrete paving contractors, the cement industry and consultant design lobbying groups of America.

MV

In honor of yet another set of flashing lights on our Jingle Bells of a roundabout - red this time - and in the season:

Flashing lights, twinkling lights
Burlingame laid an egg
Drivers speed, they don’t heed,
Pedestrians have to be-eg

Radar signs, diverging lines,
Everyone has their doubt
But that’s ok, city hall rules
They love their roundabout

MV

Driving thru the street
It was once a straight old line
What’s the point of that
It was working all too fine ...

“Tell you what we’ll do
A circle we will sell”
With plants, and signs and lights and stuff
The results are LOL.

Oh flashing beams, flashing red,
What does all this mean
Why not simple traffic lights
With red yellow & gre-en

Lots of signs, a ton of paint,
Just four million bucks
The town’s confused, no one’s amused
Council couldn’t give two

uhap

excellent poetry. Unfortunately it goes way over the heads of the city council and planners.

Scientist

Washington State describes it well:

There are several reasons why roundabouts help reduce the likelihood and severity of collisions:

Low travel speeds – Drivers must slow down and yield to traffic before entering a roundabout. Speeds in the roundabout are typically between 15 and 20 miles per hour. The few collisions that occur in roundabouts are typically minor and cause few injuries since they occur at such low speeds.
No light to beat – Roundabouts are designed to promote a continuous, circular flow of traffic. Drivers need only yield to traffic before entering a roundabout; if there is no traffic in the roundabout, drivers are not required to stop. Because traffic is constantly flowing through the intersection, drivers don't have the incentive to speed up to try and "beat the light," like they might at a traditional intersection.
One-way travel – Roads entering a roundabout are gently curved to direct drivers into the intersection and help them travel counterclockwise around the roundabout. The curved roads and one-way travel around the roundabout eliminate the possibility for T-bone and head-on collisions.

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